tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post2520427234410783044..comments2023-10-08T10:24:24.396+01:00Comments on Stephen's Liberal Journal: Just What Did Dale Mean?Stephen Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-30342125951976731722008-12-22T21:06:00.000+00:002008-12-22T21:06:00.000+00:00Unbelievable.Unbelievable.Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-88846294385390077922008-12-22T21:25:00.000+00:002008-12-22T21:25:00.000+00:00Yes Iain it is. Having worked with young people on...Yes Iain it is. Having worked with young people on and off for years. That you could have used that phrase in either of the recognisably conoctations is quite as you say unbelievable.Stephen Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-66638836389383883562008-12-22T22:16:00.000+00:002008-12-22T22:16:00.000+00:00I have to say, that given that our party came up w...I have to say, that given that our party came up with the wonderous slogan "homophobia is gay" I think there is a tiny element of glass houses here, but, you know, any opportunity to point and laugh at That Tory Blogger...<br><br>Have we all got our handbags at the ready? I know it's not dawn for 10 hours or so, but...Jenniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14893281560181289667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-3817977736293120432008-12-22T22:23:00.000+00:002008-12-22T22:23:00.000+00:00Oh yeah I'd forgotten that slogan.But then whe...Oh yeah I'd forgotten that slogan.<br><br>But then when I was 13 I was being called all sorts and I wasn't sure exactly where I stood back then. Possibly why I've given so much time to youth organisations since in one way or another.<br><br>I guess having been through all that made me want to be the best at whatever I laid my mind to. ie the anti "gay" in the modern parlance. :)Stephen Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-91446555848394456602008-12-22T22:27:00.000+00:002008-12-22T22:27:00.000+00:00I feel quite gay in the very old fashioned sense o...I feel quite gay in the very old fashioned sense of the word - happy and brightly coloured.<br><br>While in the semi modern-usage I am bi rather than gay.<br><br>And in the very modern usage, I am lame and geeky, which could be gay, I suppose.Jenniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14893281560181289667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-59979149573004396392008-12-22T22:31:00.000+00:002008-12-22T22:31:00.000+00:00Yay!! Get as full value as possible out of the wor...Yay!! Get as full value as possible out of the word as you can Jennie.Stephen Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-659945387361673982008-12-22T22:33:00.000+00:002008-12-22T22:33:00.000+00:00I'm kind of with Iain on this, especially if h...I'm kind of with Iain on this, especially if he is gay.<br><br>I had an Irish colleague refer to me as Paddy last week. We're still pals. I always reckon that comments become insults by intent, rather than simple utterance - or am I being a bit Irish?<br><br>Happy Christmas ;-)<br><br>KevKevhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11290102295920515816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-5990534776889919212008-12-22T23:04:00.000+00:002008-12-22T23:04:00.000+00:00Interesting point there Kev and it can depend on c...Interesting point there Kev and it can depend on context. Say for example of mates are contantly ribbing each other about there conquests on a Saturday night and they have a gay friend in their midst. Ideally they would rib him about the guys where they go as they would each other about the lasses. <br><br>But I can assure you that those sort of mates would be first to jump to their gay friends defence should anyone else start it.Stephen Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-20933526333893973942008-12-22T23:26:00.000+00:002008-12-22T23:26:00.000+00:00Yep, and I've been in that exact circumstance....Yep, and I've been in that exact circumstance.Kevhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11290102295920515816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-85011187239472218592008-12-23T12:47:00.000+00:002008-12-23T12:47:00.000+00:00This is utterly ridiculous. I am someone who is &q...This is utterly ridiculous. I am someone who is "a bit gay", and it is not comments a la Dale that I find offensive, it is the self righteous comments of people who have disappeared so far up their fundaments as to lose perspective.Pete Wasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07273201618379148597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-34558621639789680742008-12-23T12:58:00.000+00:002008-12-23T12:58:00.000+00:00Firstly Pete my comments are not self anything but...Firstly Pete my comments are not self anything but are based on a number of practical experience from working with our young people over the years. <br><br>I have already said to Iain across a number of mediums and in a number of places that I do not have a problem with him using the word and the meaning he associated with it himself. Indeed in the right company taking jocularly there is very little offense in it.<br><br>However, when as in this case is a defence from an adult to put down a 13 year old because he could think of no other way to handle the situation that I do take offense. <br><br>The word is irrelevant merely a catalyst for the amount of comment this story has generated in the last 15 hours or so. It is the context of its use that I take exception to.Stephen Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-70872491312126995612008-12-23T16:10:00.000+00:002008-12-23T16:10:00.000+00:00Steve - well said all round in the whole variety o...Steve - well said all round in the whole variety of places you have written on this.Paul Walterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3732919976442735382.post-55042373960083350982008-12-23T16:39:00.000+00:002008-12-23T16:39:00.000+00:00Eeek you broken into Mr Dales Facebook account to ...Eeek you broken into Mr Dales Facebook account to read his messages as well have you Paul ;)Stephen Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.com